Most founders look for easy markets with fast validation loops, but April CEO Ben Borodach picked the opposite: the US tax industry. It’s so regulated, only ~10 companies in history have gone through the process he willingly walked into.

In early 2025, April became the first new tax platform in over a decade and a half to receive authorization to file returns nationally.

April CTO Daniel Marcous and CEO Ben Borodach

In July, April announced a $38M Series B. To scale, Ben and co-founder Daniel Marcous built what he calls a compound startup — a company that can’t be reduced to a single wedge product because the problem itself is made of interlocking layers: infrastructure, compliance, data, distribution, and workflow.

That’s the playbook we unpack in this episode. 

A lot of startup advice online is optimized for fast-moving consumer apps and narrow SaaS plays, but many founders are working in regulated markets, infrastructure, and entrenched legacy systems.

If that’s you, this episode contains vocabulary, frameworks (and real talk) that can help you build something genuinely durable.

What is a Compound Startup?

It’s a company that must solve multiple layers of the problem simultaneously because the system you’re replacing doesn’t neatly separate into “good wedge” vs. “later expand.”

In April’s case, the layers included:

  • A compliant, IRS-approved tax engine

  • National tax form coverage

  • A consumer-grade user experience

  • Embedded distribution into banks and fintechs

  • Infrastructure for real-time tax insights and financial decisioning

April didn’t build one layer in isolation — because the value only emerged when the layers worked together.

The Framework: How to Build Something This Complex

Ben and Daniel identified three basic principles while building April — and each one is transferable to any founder tackling a complicated market:

1. Sequence the Risk in the Right Order

Intuitively, founders want to make progress everywhere at once. Compound startups die that way.

April’s approach:

  • Risk #1: Technical feasibility — Can you build it at all?

  • Risk #2: Regulatory acceptance — Will anyone approve this?

  • Risk #3: Institutional distribution — Will partners integrate?

  • Risk #4: Consumer experience — Will people trust it?

You don’t need to solve everything on Day 1. Instead, pick the right domino to knock down first.

2. Treat Early Product Work as Science Experiments, Not Revenue Plays

Before writing code, they logged more than 100 customer interviews across banks, payroll, benefits platforms, wealth apps, and fintechs.

Not to sell, but to observe patterns. After they identified places where taxes created operational risk or customer friction, they began building the platform.

3. Write a Cultural Playbook Before Writing Code

This was one of the most refreshing parts of the conversation.

Before building anything, Ben and Daniel wrote a cultural manifesto that covered:

  • How they handle conflict

  • What “quality” means

  • How they give and receive feedback

  • How they make decisions under pressure

  • What standards are non-negotiable

This wasn't an offsite exercise; they developed a shared operating system to keep them in sync before starting a journey that would last years.

“Ironically, when things are going well, you spend most of your time dealing with the things that aren't,” says Ben. “Having a clear and cohesive framework for that is critical, both to success but also longevity in this game.”

RUNTIME 48:00

EPISODE BREAKDOWN

  • 01:08  How Ben and Daniel met + connecting over complex data problems

  • 01:47  Ben’s background: Deloitte, crypto infra, cyber, fintech

  • 02:51  Why pick tax? Choosing a hard, high-impact market

  • 03:44  Outdated incumbents + the opportunity hidden in “don’t touch that” markets

  • 04:57  Why tax innovation is so rare: regulatory hurdles and decades-old engines

  • 05:29  Founder-market fit: complementary backgrounds + AI expertise

  • 06:38  Translating congressional law into code + achieving 20× engineering leverage

  • 07:25  The pseudo-manifesto: conflict resolution, culture, and founder alignment

  • 08:40  What “compound startup” means and why narrow wedges don’t work in B2B

  • 09:57  Stitching data, workflows, and software into a flexible platform

  • 10:39  Building for multiple configurations across financial institutions

  • 11:26  How complexity becomes a moat

  • 13:01  Why compound startups require longer gestation and patience

  • 14:46  Sequencing layers: engine → coverage → interfaces → embedded infra

  • 17:13  Serving customers early: friction with the market by design

  • 18:46  Manual work vs. automation: the constant balancing act

  • 19:27  The early KPI wasn’t revenue  it was proving technical and trust viability

  • 20:46  Running “science experiments” to de-risk assumptions

  • 21:16  Investor expectations vs. seasonal learning cycles

  • 22:47  Surviving four years of annual gauntlets before scale

  • 23:02  Inside the regulatory maze: IRS approval, state forms, arbitrary specs

  • 24:04  Data governance challenges: CCPA, IRS 7216, portability

  • 25:20  Why April participates in the industry’s private governance body

  • 26:18  Why April chose embedded distribution over a consumer app

  • 29:08  Tax as the missing data layer enabling personalization

  • 30:47  How customer discovery differed across banking, wealth, and SMB

  • 32:51  What April had to prove at Seed, Series A, Series B

  • 33:49  Why rigid VC benchmarks can be unhelpful for complex companies

  • 37:02  Headcount growth: seed → A → B

  • 38:20  Why Ben doesn’t interview every employee anymore

  • 39:48  Founder evolution: doing → delegating → maintaining quality

  • 40:55  Resilience, wellbeing, and founder longevity

  • 41:39  The mythology of 996 and why it’s unsustainable

  • 44:07  The most common mistakes first-time fintech founders make

  • 46:14  The one question Ben would ask the CEO if he were interviewing for a job with an early-stage startup

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